Well here we are again at the end of another week of “Forgotten Heroes”, and this week I really wanted to finish the sculpting on my two “Big Cats” as two weeks in and all I had to show was the heads! The saddles on both needed doing, so less talking and more sculpting was going to be the only way they were going to get done, sorry that this is a bit of a long post, but it’s been a bit of a long week! So if you’ll excuse me we’ll crack on…
I had decided that the best way to tackle the saddles was to do them both at once, that way I could reference then to each other as I went (though that didn’t work out as well as I’d planned, but we’ll get to that in a minute!). Anyway I mixed up some putty and divided it in half, then took a small amount of each and rolling them out into two sausages (I do use the word sausage a lot on this blog, sometimes I wonder if people searching for a pork lover’s blog are directed here by mistake! Sorry sidetracked!) laid one across each of the backs of my cats. Taking my pointed colour shaper and turning it around I used the handle to push in the saddle seats by rocking it back and forth across the backs. Once I was happy with this I took the remaining two blobs of putty and after rolling these out into “you know what!” placed these in front of the saddle seats. Smoothing and blending ensued until the ridges at the front of the saddles were achieved. I left it at that for today.
Looking at yesterday’s work again I could see I had put Battle Cat’s saddle to far forward when it was compared to Panthor!! (So much for doing them at the same time so they would match!). Now this was a problem as I was going to have trouble fitting in the armoured plates ahead of this on Battle Cat anyway as his helmet extends back further than Panthor’s head does, but what to do. Now I really (REALLY) didn’t want to have to do Battle Cat’s saddle seat again so if I could prize it away without breaking it…which I managed, I was able to take a needle file to the inside and after filing away a little was able to superglue it back on a little further back. I should have used the stripes on their backs for positioning (he says now!).
So now that the saddles were both in the right place I could crack on with the plates in front of the saddles, so some putty was mixed and divided into two even balls. I tackled Battle Cat first running a sausage across his shoulders them smoothing this down and tapering it back towards the saddle. I then pushed in the ridge to form the second plate into this before adding the two small circular parts at the back of the plates, once I was happy with this I added another sausage in front of the front saddle ridge and blended this in. I then added some small disks (these were just balls pushed flat) and then after pushing a small circular “dent” into the middle of these added the horns/spikes (there should really be three at the top, but felt there wasn’t room so went with two instead). Turning to Panthor next I decided that you weren’t going to be able to buy a saddle for a big cat off of the shelf, so as unlike Mattel I didn’t need to mass produce these things I could afford to make a different saddle for Panthor. So using the same basic technique as I did on Battle Cat, I formed a similar shaped piece over the shoulders but stretched the top centre forward up the neck slightly, then added a curled edge and a small skull to the top (well it is Skeletors cat!). Lastly as the putty was beginning to go off, I again added a couple of spikes either side. This means Panthor is now slightly behind Battle Cat as I still need to add the front of the saddle ridge. But I’m still okay for time so no panic yet.
I added the straps that run underneath the bodies next day, these were just (you guessed it) sausages!! Run underneath the bellies then smoothed out and another smaller sausage added across these each side just under where they attach to the saddle. I then added blobs of putty just under this on one side and flattened these out into a triangle, and added two “spare” belt holes. I had enough putty left over to add the front of Panthors saddle ridge and three more spikes along the top of this.
I started the at other end of the saddles next day, again I decided to vary the designs a bit, so when it came to adding the small plate that reaches the tails I did one wider on Battle Cat than on Panthor. This was also repeated on the next one along with two curves that culminated in a point on Panthor’s. Also today I made the backrests, these were just a couple of “croissant” shaped bits of putty that I pushed flat between some plastic and left to dry, I will file them to shape and glue them on tomorrow. Lastly today I took a couple of my 60x40mm MDF bases and using a “two pence piece” as a stencil cut out a couple of lozenge shaped bases ready for when they are finished.
Much sanding and cutting was done to the backrest today before they were stuck in place, then I added the next “back” plate on each, again I did them different shapes with Battle Cat’s just a gentle curve and Panthors sweeping in to a central point, and that was it for today.
At the back of Battle Cats saddle there is a bit of scroll work, this I though was not going to be a problem (Wrong!!!), all I needed to do was roll out some putty in a “V” shape and roll it up, simple (Wrong!!!) could I do this? Could I buggery! Much swearing and thinking ensued (but mostly swearing!), finally I decided to take a leaf out of Jez’s book and think outside the box (or stuff, in this case), so taking a piece of cardboard I rolled it up as tight as I could, then unrolled it again, cut it into three “V” shapes (I hoped one would turn out OK), and re-rolled them again even tighter, with a “dab” of wood glue to secure them, once dry I mixed up a small amount of putty and a tiny blob was set atop the back of Battle Cat’s saddle, then the best paper roll was sat on top of this. Again I decided to alter Panthors saddle so after another blob of putty was placed on his saddle, I pushed a tapered sausage across its top, curling the ends up like horns, then left both to dry overnight while I went upstairs for a little cry!
Now I’m always saying that you should have patience, not rush things and not to tackle to much in one go, but there also comes a point where you are sick of the bloody sight of things, and these two cats had just about reached this point, so I decided the sculpting was going to be finished TODAY. Fortunately all that was left to do was to completely cover the saddle back and blend them into the surrounding pieces, this I did in two stages. Firstly the front faces were covered and smoothed and putty was added over the tops of the decorative items (horns and paper roll) that I’d added yesterday, and then later once this was firm(ish), I added the side and backs adding a ridge around the back and down the rear edges of the sides, and blending in the bottom with curves to match the armoured plate behind.
Thank god, they are now finished, all I need to do now is base and paint them, All…..hahhahahah!
So till next time, stay safe, and cheers Roger.
Wow Roger, what a post. I never sausage a thing before. 😁
Seriously, nice sculpting and thanks for the WIP. I have had difficulty sanding and or filing green stuff. Usually it gets all friable on me – any suggestions?
Looking forward to seeing what you do with the brush on theses two.
Gosh you are on the ball today Mark I’ve only just posted this!! Hopefully this blog will be sausage free for the next few weeks! 😁
Thanks, as for advice when sanding greenstuff, like everything else where greenstuff is concerned, it’s worth taking your time, carve away as much as you can with a really sharp knife and if at all possible get it right while it is wet, as you cant get as good a finish on it once it has set in my experience. In this case it was just easier to make the back plates separate as I could do them flat, and I knew I was going to cover the whole things in another layer of putty. Hope this helps (a bit).
The paint jobs should be relatively straight forward, as they are not that complicated.
Glad you liked that Roger, and thanks for the answer. Looking forward to the final product!
Thanks Mark, and best of luck with your interview this week, I will be listening in on Friday. Will you be too famous to talk to me after that?
Absolutely fantastic, Roger. They look spot on. Now the sculptingbis done, you’ve got the easy part – the painting, which should be less stressful. Once they’re done, will their respective masters be shown with them?
Thanks Jez, I took quite a few liberties with Panthor to be honest, but I didn’t want them to look too similar (and it made any defects less obvious too😜).
I had thought I should dig out He-man and Skeletor for the final pic’s (if I was computer savvy I could have done a gif of Cringer transforming into BC, but I’m not so it wont happen).
Do you buy GS in bulk? Well done Roger. Even unpainted, you have captured the look of those kitty cats and their armor and saddles.
Thanks, funny you should say that Harry but I went to Salute a few years back (got to be three or four), and one of the traders was selling bags of Greenstuff, two for ten pounds, and each bag contained about 1m of putty. Now GW sell if for about £8.00 for two 50mm long stipes? (might have gone up as haven’t bought any from there since I got this lot) so this was a bargain I couldn’t refuse. I’ve still got about 50mm left from the second bag, I keep it in the freezer as that supposedly makes it last longer (might be an old wives tale, but mine is still fine so there might be something in it).
So to answer your question, yes!
Nice! I buy the Army Painter variant since that what I can find. I don’t look at the price. I don’t want to know…
I know what you mean, it can be scary to see what some of this stuff costs! GW do this clear plastic stuff that you can put in boiling water and it goes soft, you can then push it around object/figures. Once it goes hard you can push greenstuff into the new mould it makes and create copies of stuff. You can re-use it but the price has always put me off buying some, even though I’d love to have a go with it!
Great work on your two cats Roger, they both look very effective, and as there yours modifying the look of each to make them more distinctive is a great idea.
For reasonably priced greenstuff go to Sylmasta.com they sell it in 36 inch rolls for less than the price of GW’s pack. For instamould go to the craft websites they sell the same stuff just in weird sparkly colours but a fraction of the cost.
Thanks Dave I shall file that away for future reference, I probably have enough Greenstuff to last me another year at least, but I’ll check out the “instamould” didn’t know that was what it was called (thanks).
Another amazing sculpting job – well done, they look amazing! I can’t wait to see them painted up.
Many thanks Matt, high praise indeed! they wont be anywhere near as complicated at the marvellous you you do, I can assure you.
Those two are looking really good. Really impressive work with the green stuff.
Thanks Pete, blobs and sausages that’s all it is really.
Haha if I ever get another blog up and running I’m going to call it “The Pork Lovers Blog” Great work mate, they’re looking so cool.
I think you might get some “interesting” visitors if you called a blog that, and I think all of them would be disappointed when they saw the types of “models” you would be showcasing! 😉
Thanks Luke, cheers Roger.
So very good Roger, worth all the effort to get them to this stage. Can’t wait to see them painted now.
I’m glad you think so Michael!! Seriously though many thanks for the kind comment, Guess I better get the brushes out then 😁.
The kittehs are coming along very nicely!
Thanks Azazal, should have them finished before the months end.
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